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My Conversation With Michael Cohen

My First Live Video Chat on Substack!

Hi All,

So, Rome was not built in a day.

And on my debut live video chat, we had a sound hiccup, and then a video hiccup. And my screen kept on fading out. However, we survived and here it is!

It was good to chat to Michael whom I haven’t seen for a long time.

We were first introduced, shortly after Trump took office in 2017 at a breakfast at the Core Club in New York. We then got to know each other well that first summer of the new administration out in the Hamptons. We’d meet for coffee at the appropriately named “Coffee House” in Bridgehampton when Michael was starting to get the inkling that the “big guy” was not going to be there for him after all and that he was en route to becoming the first member of his self-described “thrown-under-the-bus” club.

It occurred to me it’d be good to get his insight into what’s going on inside Trump World, given he was, as he says, Donald Trump’s first call in the morning and his last call at night for many, many years.

A preview of topics discussed with their timestamps:

  • 0:27 - Who is Steve Witkoff?

  • 1:57 - Why did Trump choose Witkoff?

  • 3:15 - “Trump does not trust Marco Rubio”

  • 4:17 - Trump, Cohen, and David Pecker of the National Enquirer, were responsible for the smear campaign against Rubio…“Major story in the center of the paper of Marco Rubio naked with like fifty, sixty other guys in a pool after a cocaine binge…”

  • 5:25 - Why did Trump get over his Rubio grudge? His J.D. Vance grudge?

  • 6:37 - Elon Musk is the new Michael Cohen?

  • 9:30 - Trump vs. Musk’s power

  • 10:00 - Musk’s/tech billionaires’ worldview

  • 11:40 - The end of Trump and Musk’s relationship? Look at what Trump did to Vivek Ramaswamy…

  • 13:40 - Trump’s popularity increase

  • 14:20 - Howard Lutnick’s credentials

  • 15:32 - “You can kiss the Constitution goodbye…” and will Trump run for a third term?

  • 16:10 - Roger Stone vs. Michael at the beginning of Trump’s political career

  • 17:31 - What does Trump actually believe?

  • 19:20 - How does Vance fit into Trump’s plan?

  • 20:01 - Defeating Trumpism

  • 21:00 - The transactional nature of all Trump’s relationships

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