Hey Everyone,
Thank you for tuning into to my live broadcast from the Donald J. Trump and Jeffrey Epstein Memorial Reading Room in TriBeCa in Manhattan.
Adam Klasfeld and I did NOT discuss Leon Black’s testimony to the House Oversight Committee - because it’s been postponed to June 26th.
But we did discuss:
a) the powerful impact of the pop-up museum that is the Epstein Files Reading Room. I tried to give you a virtual tour.
b) what we make of the alleged Epstein suicide note
c) the strange case of the “Jane Doe”, who accused Leon Black of rape (he says he never even met her) and whose lawyer has been sanctioned by a judge.
d) The stunning reversal of Alex Murdaugh’s conviction of murdering his wife and son.
e) Luigi Mangione’s imminent important state court hearing
e) the latest in the ongoing immigration case of Kilmar Abrego-Garcia
f) The debacle of the Louisiana v. Callais decision, weakening the Voting Rights Act and causing mayhem in Alabama
AND
last but not least: Stacey Williams joined me live in the reading room, her eyes filled with tears, as she talked.
For those who don’t know her story: Stacey was a very successful Sports Illustrated model who briefly dated Jeffrey Epstein (to whom she was introduced by the model agency owner, Faith Kates) in 1993. She quickly figured out Epstein and Trump were close friends. But she was wholly unprepared for the moment that winter when, while walking with Epstein, he suddenly decided to drop in on Trump in his office in Trump Tower where, she says Trump then groped her for a few minutes in front of Epstein and his assistant.
“The door wasn’t closed which is why it was so sort of confusing and discombobulating for me … he stepped outside of his office and we were in this sort of waiting area and his assistant was walking back and forth and Donald just started putting his hands all over me and Jeffrey was standing there but they kept talking as if I weren’t even there.
I didn’t even remember what they were talking about - I think it was about me and my career or something - and as he’s talking to me he’s putting his hands up and down my body and touching my butt my breasts my hip, everything. I just I froze I was in absolute shock…”
Stacey first went public about the alleged assault in 2024 shortly before the election and of course Trump vehemently denied it. Karoline Leavitt, then the press secretary for the Trump campaign issued a statement, saying: “These accusations, made by a former activist for Barack Obama and announced on a Harris campaign call two weeks before the election, are unequivocally false. It’s obvious this fake story was contrived by the Harris campaign.”
As you will hear, the postcard Trump sent Stacey (below) after the alleged assault has been authenticated and she has undergone a polygraph by a veteran FBI special agent. Plus Epstein is on tape telling Michael Wolff about the incident.
Stacey says that once she and Epstein were in the street, having left Trump’s office, Epstein was livid and let her have it. She began to realize what had happened; that it was a test that “was coordinated” by the two men.
I had vented a lot to Jeffrey about how dark and, you know, violent the modeling industry, and how just completely pervasive rape culture was or is in the modeling industry - and how I was always in trouble with agents and photographers for fighting back, for refusing to play along,f or refusing to kowtow to these guys in power, to Patrick Demarchelier’s photographers. And then I told him stories of actually physically defending myself a few times.
She thinks Epstein wanted to test if she’d defend herself with Trump.
As we learned from the Access Hollywood tape, Donald Trump has bragged about what he can get away with. He made it very clear that’s what he does. He says: “they don’t do anything”… and I thought: “oh no …..I didn’t do anything .. I froze.”
In our conversation, as you will hear, Stacey tells us that she met Ghislaine Maxwell and wondered about her relationship with Epstein: she seemed possessive. And that there was a lot of speculation about Epstein’s “dark money.” What the heck is “dark money” she wondered at the time. But the money was far from the only “dark” thing about Epstein’s behavior.
She describes the moment when Epstein slid into the conversation the fact he’d secretly filmed her undressing.
“I’d stayed over his place one night and…. he looked at me many days later and said something like, …. that video I have of you undressing… is my most prized possession ….Jeffrey had this way if you speak to some of the other journalists or women who have interacted with him he has this way of just sort of sliding in a really dark way….”
Well, of course, I was one of those journalists who experienced first hand how Epstein could slide in threats in a really dark way…
I know exactly what Stacey is talking about.
Where, she asks, is that tape of her undressing? The DOJ has not reached out to her, even though she tells her story to the international media almost daily.
Her plea, as you will here, is that investigators around the world must not stop simply because Epstein and Jean-Luc Brunel (who was her manager) are dead; the rot spread far wider and there is work to be done.
I hope you will be as inspired by our talk - as we were.
Thank you for watching.
Thank you Ellie Leonard, Citizens Against Tyranny, Courtney, An Mcgreevy, Jeoffry Gordon, MD, MPH, and many others for tuning into my live video with Adam Klasfeld! Join me for my next live video in the app.
