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The words coming out of Trump's mouth about the ability to pardon GM are so egregious that Trump's base should abandon him. How could anyone possibly justify the pardon? Who would even attempt to justify it. Mad Mike Johnson??? MTG? Rogan? How could anyone come up with any logical reasoning other than it being such a tell, such a damning maneuver and such a death knoll to the girls who were victimized? These are sad times, indeed.

RTBG's avatar

you see them trying to paint her as a victim which is just disgusting. she is a criminal who victimizes others

James Jenkins's avatar

You are stupidly ignorant. Have you bothered to read other journalists who bothered to read like Michael Tracey of Jay Beecher on the facts, what’s accurate and what’s not ? Or indeed what is true rather than conflated rubbish? . No

Ralph Hensley's avatar

Maxwell and at one time Ivana Trump

Sharon Flynn's avatar

It’s possible she was both. Some victims identify with the aggressor and her behavior certainly looks like that. Her personality traits may have also made it easier for her to become what she did become: a trafficker of children. But it is not worth arguing about on social media. She became what she was adjudicated to have been. Leave the rest to the professionals.

Wayne Baker's avatar

Maxwell will get a pardon, a name change, millions of dollars and asked to leave the country by trump.

Melissa Hoffmann's avatar

Trump belongs in prison and if he is in prison he cannot pardon GM or help her get her passports and disappear.

Gayla Mayo's avatar

Why do you say he belongs in prison?

James Jenkins's avatar

Because she didn’t get a fair trial and her convictions were based on inconsistent weak evidence and many due process issues if you pay attention

Ralph Hensley's avatar

Sad times with sick minds

Matthew Murphy's avatar

I assume you mean death knell. Autocorrect is the devil. So, these are not girls in the main. To the extent there were minors on the Epstein estate performing “massages” they had been recruited by Roberts and Robinson and told to lie about their ages. It stinks, but there it is. Most of the “victims” are young women of age who wanted money and did some number of compromising things to get it. Some were gaslit about access to a future in modeling, some were young enough that they didnt have the force of personality to resist mere charisma… and that is pretty much it. I used to think there was more. I'd love to see the rest of the “files”. I acknowledge the extremity of the tips file contents. As best I can tell, what I described above is what is actually true. If you want to understand Epstein in terms if what is actually there, think of a moderately interesting savant who frequents rub and tugs. Got that in mind? Good. Now imagine that guy with 200 million dollars. That's Epstein.

I will only add that many of the women have already won settlements from extortionate cases against banks. Some of them may want a taste still. Their attornys definitely do. Let them come forward and testify in the open. Let's have it all out. Release the files. Let the pearl clutching commence.

Best of luck to you.

James Jenkins's avatar

You are stupidly ignorant. Have you bothered to read other journalists who bothered to read like Michael Tracey of Jay Beecher on the facts, what’s accurate and what’s not ? Or indeed what is true rather than conflated rubbish? . No

James Jenkins's avatar

Sheep mob stupid people are among us. Sadly and some sickos

James Jenkins's avatar

Jim Acosta has Trump Derangement syndrome and doesn’t get that Maxwell didn’t get a fair trial and ought to have her sentence commuted … her treatment was horrendous and most facilitators barely get more than 6 years for primary offenders.. Virgina was a pathological liar… ALISON MACK 3 years and Bronfman 4 years and RJ KELLY who were worse than Epstein and his right hand men and woman recruiters got suspended sentence so Maxwell is doing esptein crime- Dershowitz is right .

Sean Moore's avatar

Really? She should be in a max facility for the horrors she committed. If you need to defend her than perhaps you have guilty conscious

James Jenkins's avatar

Rubbish .. her trial was a farce and weak even Jk Brown who is pro accuser believes everything on face value who wants everyone convicted including maxwell said her Maxwell trial was weak and thought she was going to be found not guilty ..

Yes but i agree release all the Epstein files i agree UNREACTED ( but they won’t ) which will curiously display the accusers blatant lies by Virgina Guifree, Sarah Ransom , Maria Farmer blatant fabulist stories among the certain true aspects

Ralph Hensley's avatar

Your comments point blank tells us that you condone pedophiles

James Jenkins's avatar

WTF SO DUMB . Pedophilia is disguising sickness. Are you one ?

James Jenkins's avatar

Stop conflating and lying. What the hell You are wrong, false and making false assumptions. It’s disgusting- pedophilia is a disgusting sickness and mental illness where pedophiles are attracted to pre pubescent teens. ( no evidence creepy Epstein had contact with pre teens) .. creepy Epstein had alleged contact with teens and also many above age females . The alleged teen minors he had alleged massage contact with was the only prima facie illegal part.. BUT again you are also conflating and misleading yourself as the accusers I refer to above were ABOVE AGE females specifically Sarah Ransome and Maria farmer were in their 20s and Virginia was not a child she was 17 yo ( not a minor in UK ) and when she allegedly said she had sex in USA with Prince Andrew she was already 18. And by the way a 15 or 17 yo male or female can be a pedophile offender if they are attached to and sexually abuse a 9 yo which is really sick. Look up the sad trafic sick pedophile case about a 15 yo male teenager ( a pedophile ) who repeatedly abused his younger 7 or 9 yo sister and brother for years .

She's avatar

DOJ just needs to release ALL the files on Epstein. Full Stop!!! Go peddle your addled jargon elsewhere!!!

James Jenkins's avatar

Yes release all the Epstein files i agree UNREACTED which will curiously display the accusers blatant lies by Virgina Guifree, Sarah Ransom , Maria Farmer blatant fabulist stories among the certain true aspects

She's avatar

Okay, I see now that these James Jenkins comments are either AI generated or are from a troll. The comments are repeated and repeated word for word.

James Jenkins's avatar

You are stupidly ignorant. Have you bothered to read other journalists who bothered to read like Michael Tracey of Jay Beecher on the facts, what’s accurate and what’s not ? Or indeed what is true rather than conflated rubbish? . No

James Jenkins's avatar

I copy and paste to idiots or nice people I don’t discriminate usually - but don’t make false assumptions I’m not AI LOLL -

Lisa Cafferty's avatar

Have you read the in depth research that has been done by independent journalists? Or is that is that fake news? It’s pretty bad and it goes pretty deep Ghislaine is one of the main players.

Kris O's avatar

Epstein was poaching young girls, then encouraging those girls to bring in other girls…. It’s so gross. If 1% of Katie Johnson’s testimony is correct - DJT should be in jail for the rest of his life. It is horrific.

Epstein & DJT have “strange” money coincidences- follow the money people! This is a deeper scandal, the girls are only the beginning. Follow the money of Maxwell, Epstein, DJT, Wexner, etc. keep following the money!

A Sharp's avatar

Jim, thanks for prioritizing the survivors.

Debra Bennett's avatar

Trump is complicit in all of it! He is a perpetrator of perpetual corruption!

Melody Reid's avatar

The incendiary trash that keeps coming out of the White House should be enough to completely discredit him, but so much was known already and he was elected. He does not care about any victims, only himself. Daily doses of sickness. I appreciate the comments that there is lessening GOP support but that is just verbiage as they still vote for him-not our country 🤨

Kathleen W's avatar

he is admitting that he and epstein were competing with collecting girls ..wtf is he still president for?? come on GOP!! pull the plug already!! we are sick of this shit show!!

Maxwell is NOT the only source of truth. the fbi files and DOJ have all the evidence!! come on!! wtf

cynde gragert's avatar

This is such a total cover up! Open the files - they are full of men who were involved in this sex trafficking ring. Believe the victims and stop acting so surprised that djt could be involved.

EileenOR's avatar

Wasn't Virginia a minor? How could she have been working for Trump at his spa?

Sharon Flynn's avatar

Note. We need to be clear if talking about Virginia Giuffree or Ghislaine Maxwell when referring to she or her.

Ruby Brown's avatar

Because Trump thinks abuse and rape is acceptable. It’s vile. Sex trafficking is horrific. The abuse is beyond comprehension. Trump is a demented old fool and pedophile.

Peyton Ovington's avatar

omg! Trump makes Nixon look like a school child

ANTI  T's avatar

Tony Michaels said it best ,,, only a pedo would pardon a pedo

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Trump doesn't want to pardon her I think. He'll be getting pressure from Israel perhaps. He must know it's going to set off a huge outrage in his Maga camp. I don't think he likes this Epstein tawdry business at all. He's just worried like all of them how much they got on him given they were setting him and other powerful men up to be complicit whether they were or not.

Sharon Flynn's avatar

I think he cares only about what will possibly get him out of trouble.

Iain Whitaker's avatar

Even having her employed in the spa at Mar a Lago when she was 14 would be an issue surely.

Carrie chick's avatar

are they sure it was suicide there's a lot of suicides lately

Emma Goldman's avatar

What about the now First Lady? What was her role in all of this?

Debra Bennett's avatar

Thank you for speaking to truth! For the victims. Standing up to the evil of their doings. Epstein. Trump! Ghislaine Maxwell most especially as she did horrific acts against that woman!

Jill's avatar

Why are we all saying Virginia committed suicide SHE CERTAINLY DID " NOT"!

She's avatar

I want to know what Mad Mike Johnson will say if a pardon of GM is given by President Trump.

James Jenkins's avatar

Jim Acosta has Trump Derangement syndrome and doesn’t get that Maxwell didn’t get a fair trial and ought to have her sentence commuted … her treatment was horrendous and most facilitators barely get more than 6 years for primary offenders.. Virgina was a pathological liar… ALISON MACK 3 years and Bronfman 4 years and RJ KELLY who were worse than Epstein and his right hand men and woman recruiters got suspended sentence so Maxwell is doing esptein crime- Dershowitz is right .