I think what we must all understand is that although she appeared fearless in public, there was indeed that very vulnerable traumatised child still within. People expect far too much of those who are brave enough to speak up. I hope her children are being wrapped up with love and care. So sad.
The real recruiters, traffickers of minors (as adults) are Virginia Giuffre, Courtney Wild, and others in FLORIDA. They admitted this in interviews, proven in the Maxwell trial. Virginia is the only one the government identified as a trafficker of minors aside from Maxwell, including victim Carolyn Adriano who was only 14 while Virginia was an ADULT.
Rina Oh is a total liar/grifter who has changed her story several times. There was an interview Rina did in Jan. 2020 with Tara Palmero which was published by Politico & she ADMITTED to Tara that Jeffrey was her "rich boyfriend" that was paying for her to go to school. She said he asked her to bring him some cute young girls from her school & she admitted to trafficking 3 of them to him. She then went on to deny the sexual assault accusations made by Marijke Chartouni were violent. Later that same year the US Sun published an article by Jessica Kwong in Oct.2020 where Oh said on the podcast Broken: Seeking Justice that she denied the allegations made by Chartouni & said [“I met her very briefly. We didn't really know each other too well,” Oh said of Chartouni. "And I brought her because he kept asking me to bring your friends. So I brought her once.” But in a subsequent interview for the podcast, Oh changed her storyline. “I was in the room when Marijke and I were both victimized by Epstein,” Oh said. Oh pushed back on claims Roberts made in her memoir and said, “I was nothing but nice to this girl.” Of Roberts, she said, “And I actually wanted to hang out with her and she declined to hang out with me,” Oh continued. “So we actually never spent any significant amount of time together except for that one shopping adventure.”] Fast forward to an article published by Business Insider in June 2022 by Ashley Collman where ["Oh called the abuse allegations "lies" in a filing on Monday, and said that it was Giuffre who in fact sexually assaulted her during an encounter with Epstein in one of his infamous massage rooms. According to the court filing, Oh said she was once called into Epstein's massage room and was surprised to find both Epstein and Giuffre "waiting for her." Oh said Giuffre "proceeded to touch" her without her consent "and much to her horror." Oh "did not reciprocate or sexually touch" Giuffre, the court filings state. The Monday filing went on to accuse Giuffre of sexually assaulting Oh on another occasion with other females, while Epstein watched. But that detail was changed significantly in an amended filing on Tuesday. The new filing blames the second sexual assault on an unidentified woman. Insider asked Oh's lawyer, Ira Meyerowitz, to explain the change on a phone call on Tuesday, and he said that it was his mistake to have included Giuffre in the description of the second assault. "Virginia was not involved in that one," Meyerowitz said, so he corrected the filing.] So, first Oh claims defamation of Robert's claim that she trafficked girls to Epstein & he wasn't her boyfriend, but she admitted exactly that in an interview in 1/2020 (the interview can still be found online) = Oh is/has lied. Roberts was actually telling the truth about her! Then she claims she only spent time w/Roberts once, but when Robert's decides to countersue her in the defamation case, Oh now all the sudden is claiming Robert's is the one who sexually abused her? Then it's corrected by her lawyer because it's a false accusation. Not only that, but in the above mentioned article by Politico, Oh admitted that she applied for the victims compensation payout from Epstein's estate (in 2019 most likely). Whether she received any $ has not been published, but if so, there is a clause that anyone who receives a payout waives their rights to proceed w/any further lawsuits against all Epstein employees or associates from that point forward regarding sex trafficking, etc. Wouldn't Roberts fall under this category? All of this is giving someone who just keeps trying to get a payout by any means necessary & how can she even have a case when SHE ADMITTED to doing exactly what Roberts said she did? Her admission is on record in that article & the podcast, so good luck on trying to pursue that w/the Roberts family (or whomever is the beneficiary of her estate)! It should be of no shock to anyone, since Oh's husband is Vincent Amen-the guy who flip flopped & claimed all kinds of odd things in the Michael Jackson case & constantly changed his story. Oh, admitted that he was the one that urged her to pursue all of this in the first place. Oh's credibility is highly questionable to say the least!
You need to be careful spreading false allegations or you may be charged with a crime under NYS law. You are attacking a victim that was identified by the federal government, prosecutors, FBI as a "victim, not a recruiter or anything else". Anyone who harrassed a government witness is subject to facing criminal charges of witness tampering. Did you spread these rumors and accusations harassing a government witness during the Maxwell investigation, trial, and sentencing? If so - you should be worried along with anyone else. This is a federal charge of witness tampering.
Separately it will be proven through the legal system from 2 civil cases against Giuffre by Oh (if evidence isn't suffice which looks pretty damning for Virginia Giuffre) - there will be consequences for any parties who were directly or indirectly responsible for making false allegations of an indictable act in criminal court, that means you and other parties can get criminally charged if you profited from such malicious accusations. You probably wouldn't want that right? This is indictable and you would appear as a co-defendant with other responsible parties should the NYS DA's office find you suspectful. Your rants in Vicky Ward's factual article is despicable on your part. Be weary, informed, and move on. Less you want to be included as a potential suspect.
Furthermore Rina Oh as a government witness provided insight and HELPED the AUSA prosecute Maxwell. What did you do? Stop with the nonsense and get it straight.
Virginia Giuffre made false allegations of criminal acts during her defamatory spew online. These are serious false allegations that were refuted with factual evidence that she lied. Read the court docs, evidence list, and expert witness reports. She may have made a mistake doesn't work here. SHE LIED is a fact. Why are you defending her and spreading nonsense?
Pls. see my above comment. Everything I mentioned is documented in various old articles online if you research Rina & the many things she has said & contradicted herself on. There is nothing genuine about her & what she claims. She actually admitted to exactly what Virginia said about her, then at some point after getting the cold shoulder from V, she changed her story & decided to file a lawsuit. She is just as shady as many others!
Yep. Agreed! Court docs, federal government reports, attorneys working on the Epstein cases all know the real truth. Press can only write allegations and Tara Palmeri was paid $$$ by David Boies and Company to set up Rina as a recruiter while cleaning up the image of his number one client, Virginia Giuffre who recruited Carolyn Adriano (14 year old). Let's see what the FBI docs, and videos show Virginia doing to HER VICTIMS.
Virginia and her attorneys settled with Alan Dershowitz saying "she may have made a mistake"?!!! How does one accuse a man of SA (8 times in a row) and may have made a mistake? She couldn't remember who it was? The fact is: Dershowitz had EVIDENCE it did not happen. Get your facts straight instead of spreading rumors that were proven to be FALSE.
I think what we must all understand is that although she appeared fearless in public, there was indeed that very vulnerable traumatised child still within. People expect far too much of those who are brave enough to speak up. I hope her children are being wrapped up with love and care. So sad.
such a tragedy
The evil of Ghislaine as well…not just Jeff E
The real recruiters, traffickers of minors (as adults) are Virginia Giuffre, Courtney Wild, and others in FLORIDA. They admitted this in interviews, proven in the Maxwell trial. Virginia is the only one the government identified as a trafficker of minors aside from Maxwell, including victim Carolyn Adriano who was only 14 while Virginia was an ADULT.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Iy-TRuxK97nytY__7euQkhRXDrUPsU50/view
Rina Oh is a total liar/grifter who has changed her story several times. There was an interview Rina did in Jan. 2020 with Tara Palmero which was published by Politico & she ADMITTED to Tara that Jeffrey was her "rich boyfriend" that was paying for her to go to school. She said he asked her to bring him some cute young girls from her school & she admitted to trafficking 3 of them to him. She then went on to deny the sexual assault accusations made by Marijke Chartouni were violent. Later that same year the US Sun published an article by Jessica Kwong in Oct.2020 where Oh said on the podcast Broken: Seeking Justice that she denied the allegations made by Chartouni & said [“I met her very briefly. We didn't really know each other too well,” Oh said of Chartouni. "And I brought her because he kept asking me to bring your friends. So I brought her once.” But in a subsequent interview for the podcast, Oh changed her storyline. “I was in the room when Marijke and I were both victimized by Epstein,” Oh said. Oh pushed back on claims Roberts made in her memoir and said, “I was nothing but nice to this girl.” Of Roberts, she said, “And I actually wanted to hang out with her and she declined to hang out with me,” Oh continued. “So we actually never spent any significant amount of time together except for that one shopping adventure.”] Fast forward to an article published by Business Insider in June 2022 by Ashley Collman where ["Oh called the abuse allegations "lies" in a filing on Monday, and said that it was Giuffre who in fact sexually assaulted her during an encounter with Epstein in one of his infamous massage rooms. According to the court filing, Oh said she was once called into Epstein's massage room and was surprised to find both Epstein and Giuffre "waiting for her." Oh said Giuffre "proceeded to touch" her without her consent "and much to her horror." Oh "did not reciprocate or sexually touch" Giuffre, the court filings state. The Monday filing went on to accuse Giuffre of sexually assaulting Oh on another occasion with other females, while Epstein watched. But that detail was changed significantly in an amended filing on Tuesday. The new filing blames the second sexual assault on an unidentified woman. Insider asked Oh's lawyer, Ira Meyerowitz, to explain the change on a phone call on Tuesday, and he said that it was his mistake to have included Giuffre in the description of the second assault. "Virginia was not involved in that one," Meyerowitz said, so he corrected the filing.] So, first Oh claims defamation of Robert's claim that she trafficked girls to Epstein & he wasn't her boyfriend, but she admitted exactly that in an interview in 1/2020 (the interview can still be found online) = Oh is/has lied. Roberts was actually telling the truth about her! Then she claims she only spent time w/Roberts once, but when Robert's decides to countersue her in the defamation case, Oh now all the sudden is claiming Robert's is the one who sexually abused her? Then it's corrected by her lawyer because it's a false accusation. Not only that, but in the above mentioned article by Politico, Oh admitted that she applied for the victims compensation payout from Epstein's estate (in 2019 most likely). Whether she received any $ has not been published, but if so, there is a clause that anyone who receives a payout waives their rights to proceed w/any further lawsuits against all Epstein employees or associates from that point forward regarding sex trafficking, etc. Wouldn't Roberts fall under this category? All of this is giving someone who just keeps trying to get a payout by any means necessary & how can she even have a case when SHE ADMITTED to doing exactly what Roberts said she did? Her admission is on record in that article & the podcast, so good luck on trying to pursue that w/the Roberts family (or whomever is the beneficiary of her estate)! It should be of no shock to anyone, since Oh's husband is Vincent Amen-the guy who flip flopped & claimed all kinds of odd things in the Michael Jackson case & constantly changed his story. Oh, admitted that he was the one that urged her to pursue all of this in the first place. Oh's credibility is highly questionable to say the least!
You need to be careful spreading false allegations or you may be charged with a crime under NYS law. You are attacking a victim that was identified by the federal government, prosecutors, FBI as a "victim, not a recruiter or anything else". Anyone who harrassed a government witness is subject to facing criminal charges of witness tampering. Did you spread these rumors and accusations harassing a government witness during the Maxwell investigation, trial, and sentencing? If so - you should be worried along with anyone else. This is a federal charge of witness tampering.
Separately it will be proven through the legal system from 2 civil cases against Giuffre by Oh (if evidence isn't suffice which looks pretty damning for Virginia Giuffre) - there will be consequences for any parties who were directly or indirectly responsible for making false allegations of an indictable act in criminal court, that means you and other parties can get criminally charged if you profited from such malicious accusations. You probably wouldn't want that right? This is indictable and you would appear as a co-defendant with other responsible parties should the NYS DA's office find you suspectful. Your rants in Vicky Ward's factual article is despicable on your part. Be weary, informed, and move on. Less you want to be included as a potential suspect.
Furthermore Rina Oh as a government witness provided insight and HELPED the AUSA prosecute Maxwell. What did you do? Stop with the nonsense and get it straight.
https://ag.ny.gov/sites/default/files/2022-08/nyfca.pdf
Virginia Giuffre made false allegations of criminal acts during her defamatory spew online. These are serious false allegations that were refuted with factual evidence that she lied. Read the court docs, evidence list, and expert witness reports. She may have made a mistake doesn't work here. SHE LIED is a fact. Why are you defending her and spreading nonsense?
Can we talk please? I came to Virginia to and for help and she trashed me. There are so many stories… so many victims.
Hi Molly, email me on vicky@vickyward.com
I did 👏
Pls. see my above comment. Everything I mentioned is documented in various old articles online if you research Rina & the many things she has said & contradicted herself on. There is nothing genuine about her & what she claims. She actually admitted to exactly what Virginia said about her, then at some point after getting the cold shoulder from V, she changed her story & decided to file a lawsuit. She is just as shady as many others!
That’s your interpretation based on the little knowledge you have. Read court doc, not articles.
Yep. Agreed! Court docs, federal government reports, attorneys working on the Epstein cases all know the real truth. Press can only write allegations and Tara Palmeri was paid $$$ by David Boies and Company to set up Rina as a recruiter while cleaning up the image of his number one client, Virginia Giuffre who recruited Carolyn Adriano (14 year old). Let's see what the FBI docs, and videos show Virginia doing to HER VICTIMS.
Virginia and her attorneys settled with Alan Dershowitz saying "she may have made a mistake"?!!! How does one accuse a man of SA (8 times in a row) and may have made a mistake? She couldn't remember who it was? The fact is: Dershowitz had EVIDENCE it did not happen. Get your facts straight instead of spreading rumors that were proven to be FALSE.
This is a heartbreaking tragedy.